Bengt Andersson
Professor emeritus at
Chalmers, Chemistry and Chemical Engineering, Chemical Technology, Chemical Engineering Design
Examina and Positions at the Department of Chemical Reaction Engineering:1971 : M.Sc. in Chemical Engineering, Chalmers University of Technology1977 : BA in Economy, Philosophy and Psychology, University of Gothenburg1977 : Ph.D. in Chemical Reaction Engineering, Chalmers University of Technology1977-1991 : Lecturer at the department of Chemical Reaction Engineering, Chalmers University of Technology1984-1985 : Visiting Scientist at Northwestern University, Illinois, USA1991-1994 : Nordic professor in Catalysis1994 - Professor at the department of Chemical Reaction Engineering, Chalmers University of TechnologyTeachingI teach basic chemical reaction engineering, mathematical modelling, optimization and experimental planning at undergraduate level and advanced chemical reaction engineering, catalysis and regression analysis at graduate level.ResearchChemical reactors: Slurry reactors have been studied both theoretically by CFD modelling and experimentally. Monolith catalyst reactors is studied both as catalytic converters for emission control and as chemical reactors for chemical industry.Catalyst deactivation: Catalyst deactivation by coke formatin is studied both for hydrogenation and dehydrogenation reactions.Automotive catalysis: Low temperature activity, NOx-abatement and oxygen storage are the main fields of research in the automotive projects.
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Showing 84 publications
2018
The effect of exhaust gas composition on the kinetics of soot oxidation and diesel particulate filter regeneration
Soheil Soltani, Ronnie Andersson, Bengt Andersson
Fuel. Vol. 220, p. 453-463
Journal article
2017
Nanofabricated catalyst particles for the investigation of catalytic carbon oxidation by oxygen spillover
Carl Justin Kamp, Héctor Hugo Pérez Garza, Hans Fredriksson et al
Langmuir. Vol. 33 (20), p. 4903-4912
Journal article
2016
Identification and characterization of three-dimensional turbulent flow structures
Farideh Ghasempour, Ronnie Andersson, Bengt Andersson
AICHE Journal. Vol. 62 (4), p. 1265-1277
Journal article
2015
Enhancement of time resolution in transient kinetics
Soheil Soltani, Ronnie Andersson, Bengt Andersson
Chemical Engineering Journal. Vol. 264, p. 188-196
Journal article
2015
Time Resolution in Transient Kinetics
Soheil Soltani, Ronnie Andersson, Bengt Andersson
Springer Proceedings in Mathematics and Statistics: 3rd Annual Workshop on Inverse Problems, 2013, Stockholm, Sweden, 2-6 May 2013. Vol. 120, p. 81-96
Paper in proceedings
2014
A comparison of fuel-cut ageing during retardation and fuel-cut during acceleration
A. Fathali, M. Laurell, F. Ekstrom et al
SAE Technical Papers. Vol. 1
Paper in proceedings
2014
Number Density of Turbulent Vortices in the Entire Energy Spectrum
Farideh Ghasempour, Ronnie Andersson, Bengt Andersson et al
AICHE Journal. Vol. 60 (11), p. 3989-3995
Journal article
2014
Determination of the temperature effect on glycerol nitration processes using the HYSYS predictions and the laboratory experiment
E. Astuti, Supranto, Rochmadi et al
Indonesian Journal of Chemistry. Vol. 14 (1), p. 57-62
Journal article
2014
CFD Characerization of Monolithic Reactors for Kinetic Studies
Soheil Soltani, Carolin Wang-Hansen, Ronnie Andersson et al
Canadian Journal of Chemical Engineering. Vol. 92 (9), p. 1570-1578
Journal article
2014
Multidimensional turbulence spectra - Statistical analysis of turbulent vortices
Farideh Ghasempour, Ronnie Andersson, Bengt Andersson
Applied Mathematical Modelling. Vol. 38 (17-18), p. 4226-4237
Journal article
2014
Mathematical Modeling in Chemical Engineering
Anders Rasmuson, Bengt Andersson, Louise Olsson et al
, p. 1-183
Book
2013
Enhanced mass and heat transfer in catalytic reactors
Ronnie Andersson, Bengt Andersson
Catalysis Today. Vol. 216, p. 117-120
Journal article
2013
Fuel-cut based rapid aging of commercial three way catalysts - Influence of fuel-cut frequency, duration and temperature on catalyst activity
A. Fathali, M. Laurell, Bengt Andersson
SAE Technical Papers. Vol. 6
Paper in proceedings
2013
Characterization of particulate matter from direct injected gasoline engines
Carolin Wang-Hansen, Per Ericsson, Björn Lundberg et al
Topics in Catalysis. Vol. 56 (1-8), p. 446-451
Journal article
2013
Kinetic analysis of O2- and NO2-based oxidation of synthetic soot
Carolin Wang-Hansen, Soheil Soltani, Bengt Andersson
Journal of Physical Chemistry C. Vol. 117 (1), p. 522-531
Journal article
2013
Hydrothermal Aging-Induced Changes in Washcoats of Commercial Three-Way Catalysts
Anna Fathali, Louise Olsson, F. Ekstrom et al
Topics in Catalysis. Vol. 56 (1-8), p. 323-328
Journal article
2013
Mindfulness based stress reduction study design of a longitudinal randomized controlled complementary intervention in women with breast cancer
Elisabeth Kenne Sarenmalm, Lena B. Mårtensson, Stig B Holmberg et al
BMC Complementary and Alternative Medicine. Vol. 13, p. Article Number: 248-
Journal article
2012
The recurrent Guillain-Barre syndrome: a long-term population-based study
Natalia Mossberg, Magnus Nordin, Charlotta Movitz et al
Acta Neurologica Scandinavica. Vol. 126 (3), p. 154-161
Journal article
2012
Turbulent operation of diesel oxidation catalysts for improved removal of particulate matter
Henrik Ström, Srdjan Sasic, Bengt Andersson
Chemical Engineering Sciences. Vol. 69 (1), p. 231-239
Journal article
2012
Multidimensional Turbulence Spectra-Statistical Analysis of Turbulent Vortices
Farideh Ghasempour, Ronnie Andersson, Bengt Andersson
Ninth International Conference on CFD in the Minerals and Process Industries
Paper in proceedings
2012
Characterization of particulate matter from direct injected gasoline engines
Carolin Wang-Hansen, Per Ericsson, Björn Lundberg et al
Proceedings of the 9th International Congress on Catalysis and Automotive Pollution Control (CAPoC9), Brussels, Belgium, August 29-31
Paper in proceedings
2012
Multidimensional Turbulence Spectra- Properties of Turbulent Vortices
Farideh Ghasempour, Ronnie Andersson, Bengt Andersson
ISCRE 22
Conference poster
2011
Experimental Method for Kinetic Studies of Gas-Solid Reactions: Oxidation of Carbonaceous Matter
Carolin Wang-Hansen, Carl Justin Kamp, Magnus Skoglundh et al
Journal of Physical Chemistry C. Vol. 115 (32), p. 16098-16108
Journal article
2011
Computational Fluid Dynamics for Engineers
Bengt Andersson, Ronnie Andersson, L. Håkansson et al
Book
2011
Computational fluid dynamics for engineers
Bengt Andersson, Ronnie Andersson, L. Håkansson et al
, p. 1-189
Book
2011
A novel multiphase DNS approach for handling solid particles in a rarefied gas
Henrik Ström, Srdjan Sasic, Bengt Andersson
International Journal of Multiphase Flow. Vol. 37 (8), p. 906-918
Journal article
2011
Multidimensional turbulence spectra – identifying properties of turbulent structures
Farideh Ghasempour, Ronnie Andersson, Nicholas Kevlahan et al
Journal of Physics: Conference Series. Vol. 318 (4), p. 042022-
Magazine article
2011
A numerical method for the study of solid-liquid mass transfer in turbulent flows
L. Håakansson, Bengt Andersson
Journal of Physics: Conference Series. Vol. 318 (SECTION 2)
Paper in proceedings
2011
Effects of the Turbulent-to-Laminar Transition in Monolithic Reactors for Automotive Pollution Control
Henrik Ström, Srdjan Sasic, Bengt Andersson
Industrial & Engineering Chemistry Research. Vol. 50 (6), p. 3194-3205
Journal article
2010
Design of automotive flow-through catalysts with optimized soot trapping capability
Henrik Ström, Srdjan Sasic, Bengt Andersson
Chemical Engineering Journal. Vol. 165 (3), p. 934-945
Journal article
2010
Numerical Simulations of Solid Particle Motion in Rarefied Flow Using VOF
Henrik Ström, Srdjan Sasic, Bengt Andersson
Proceedings of the International Conference on Multiphase Flow 2010 (ICMF-2010)
Conference contribution
2010
Progress in Methods for Identification of Micro- and Macroscale Physical Phenomena in Chemical Reactors: Improvements in Scale-Up of Chemical Reactors
Bengt Andersson, Derek Creaser
Novel Concepts in Catalysis and Chemical Reactors: Improving the Efficiency for the Future, p. 331-356
Book chapter
2009
The Role of Active Sites in the Non-Catalytic Oxidation of Carbon Particulate Matter: A Theoretical Approach
Carl Justin Kamp, Bengt Andersson
Topics in Catalysis. Vol. 52 (13-20), p. 1951-1956
Journal article
2009
Choice of urea-spray models in CFD simulations of urea-SCR systems
Henrik Ström, Andreas Lundström, Bengt Andersson
Chemical Engineering Journal. Vol. 150 (1), p. 69-82
Journal article
2009
Simulations of Trapping of Diesel and Gasoline Particulate Matter in Flow-through Devices
Henrik Ström, Bengt Andersson
Topics in Catalysis. Vol. 52 (13), p. 2047-2051
Journal article
2009
Urea thermolysis studied under flow reactor conditions using DSC and FT-IR
Andreas Lundström, Bengt Andersson, Louise Olsson
Chemical Engineering Journal. Vol. 150 (2-3), p. 544-550
Journal article
2009
Influence of carbon-catalyst interactions on carbon black oxidation
Carolin Ohlson, Magnus Skoglundh, Bengt Andersson et al
Proceedings of the 8th International Congress on Catalysis and Automotive Pollution Control (CAPoC8)
Paper in proceedings
2008
Characterization of particulate emissions and methodology for oxidation of particulates from non-diesel combustion systems
Per Ericsson, M Holmström, Annika Amberntsson et al
Proceedings of the Society of Automotive Engineers International Powertrains, Fuels and Lubricants Congress, Shanghai, China, June 23-25
Paper in proceedings
2008
Characterization of particulate emissions and methodology for oxidation of particulates from non-diesel combustion systems
Per Ericsson, M Holmström, Annika Amberntsson Carlsson et al
SAE Technical Paper (2008-01-1746)
Journal article
2008
Simulations of trapping of diesel particulate matter in a metallic substrate with protrusions
Henrik Ström, Bengt Andersson
13th Nordic Symposium on Catalysis, October 5-7, 2008, Göteborg, Sweden
Conference poster
2008
Kinetic studies on heterogeneous oxidation of carbon black
Carolin Ohlson, Carl Justin Kamp, Magnus Skoglundh et al
Proceedings of the 13th Nordic Symposium on Catalysis, Göteborg, Sweden, October 5-7
Paper in proceedings
2008
Microkinetic modelling with global thermodynamic consistency
Jonas Sjöblom, Anders Hellman, Derek Creaser et al
the 13th Nordic Symposium on Catalysis
Conference poster
2007
Bubble Trapping and Coalescence at the Leeward Side of Baffles in Reactors Stired by Rushton Turbines
Rahman Sudiyo, Bengt Andersson
AICHE Journal. Vol. 53 (9), p. 2232-2239
Journal article
2007
Analysis and Validation of the Breakup of Fluid Particles using Volume of Fluid Method
Vinay Gopala, Berend van Wachem, Bengt Andersson
Sixth International Conference on Multiphase Flows
Paper in proceedings
2006
Ozone promoted carbon monoxide oxidation on platinum/gamma-alumina catalyst
Martin Petersson, David Jonsson, Hans Persson et al
Journal of Catalysis. Vol. 238 (2), p. 321-329
Journal article
2006
The performance of a loop seal in a CFB boiler
A. Johansson, Filip Johnsson, Bengt Andersson
Journal of Energy Resources Technology, Transactions of the ASME. Vol. 128 (2), p. 135-141
Journal article
2006
Modeling the breakup of fluid particles in turbulent flows
Ronnie Andersson, Bengt Andersson
AICHE Journal. Vol. 52 (6), p. 2031-2038
Journal article
2006
On the breakup of fluid particles in turbulent flows
Ronnie Andersson, Bengt Andersson
AICHE Journal. Vol. 52 (6), p. 2020-2030
Journal article
2006
Presumed mapping functions for eulerian modelling of turbulent mixing
Mikael Mortensen, Bengt Andersson
Flow, Turbulence and Combustion. Vol. 76 (2), p. 199-219
Journal article
2006
A network-based analysis of allergen-challenged CD4+T cells from patients with allergic rhinitis
Mikael Benson, Lena M S Carlsson, Gilles Guillot et al
Genes and Immunity. Vol. 7 (6), p. 514-521
Journal article
2005
Lean hydrocarbon selective catalytic reduction over dual pore system zeolite mixtures
Martin Petersson, Thomas Holma, Bengt Andersson et al
Journal of Catalysis (235), p. 114-127
Journal article
2004
Kinetic modelling in automotive catalysis
Louise Olsson, Bengt Andersson
Topics in Catalysis. Vol. 29 (1-4), p. 89-
Journal article
2004
Development of a multi-scale simulation method for design of novel multiphase reactors
Ronnie Andersson, Bengt Andersson, Fabrice Chopard et al
Chemical Engineering Science. Vol. 59 (22-23), p. 4911-4917
Journal article
2004
Low-temperature CO oxidation over a Pt/Al2O3 monolith catalyst investigated by step-response experiments and simulations
Per-Anders Carlsson, Magnus Skoglundh, Peter Thormählen et al
Topics in Catalysis. Vol. 30/31 (1-4), p. 375-381
Journal article
2004
Experimental and numerical investigations of jet mixing in a multifunctional channel reactor: Passive and reactive systems
M. Bouaifi, Mikael Mortensen, Ronnie Andersson et al
Chemical Engineering Research and Design. Vol. 82 (A2), p. 274-283
Journal article
2004
Influence of the storage material on the storage of NOx at low temperatures
Pernilla Svedberg, Edward Jobson, Sara U Erkfeldt et al
Topics in Catalysis. Vol. 30/31 (1-4), p. 199-206
Journal article
2004
Investigation of Pt/γ-Al2O3 catalysts with locally high Pt concentrations for oxidation of CO at low temperatures
Karl Arnby, A. Torncrona, Bengt Andersson et al
Journal of Catalysis. Vol. 221 (1), p. 252-261
Journal article
2004
Computational fluid dynamic simulation of the dispersed phase size distribution in a multifunctional reactor
Ronnie Andersson, Bengt Andersson, M. Bouaifi et al
In European Symposium on Computer Aided Process Engineering - 14. Computer-Aided Chemical Engineering.. Vol. 18, p. 145-150
Journal article
2003
Low-temperature activity of NOx adsorbing materials
Pernilla Svedberg, Edward Jobson, Sara U Erkfeldt et al
18th North American Catalysis Society Meeting, Cancun, Mexico, June 1-6, 2003
Paper in proceedings
2003
Investigation of catalysts with locally high Pt-concentration for oxidation of CO at low temperatures
Karl Arnby, Anders Törncrona, Bengt Andersson et al
6th European Congress on Catalysis, Innsbruck, Austria, August 31- September 4, 2003
Paper in proceedings
2003
Influence of the storage material on the storage of NOx at low temperatures
Pernilla Svedberg, Edward Jobson, Sara U Erkfeldt et al
6th International Congress on Catalysis and Automotive Pollution Control (CAPoC6), Brussels, Belgium, October 22-24, 2003
Paper in proceedings
2003
Investigation of catalysts with hot active sites for low-temperature CO oxidation
Karl Arnby, Anders Törncrona, Bengt Andersson et al
18th North American Catalysis Society Meeting, Cancun, Mexico, June 1-6, 2003
Paper in proceedings
2003
Low-temperature CO oxidation over a Pt/Al2O3 monolith catalyst investigated by step-response experiments and simulations
Per-Anders Carlsson, Magnus Skoglundh, Peter Thormählen et al
Proceedings of the 6th International Congress on Catalysis and Automotive Pollution Control (CAPoC6), Brussels, Belgium, October 22-24
Paper in proceedings
2002
Induced low temperature catalytic ignition by transient changes in the gas composition
Per-Anders Carlsson, Magnus Skoglundh, Erik Fridell et al
Catalysis Today. Vol. 73 (3-4), p. 307-313
Journal article
2002
Pressure drop of monolithic catalytic converters -Experiments and modelling
Fredrik Ekström, Bengt Andersson
Society of Automotive Engineers Tecnical Paper Series. Vol. 2002, p. 2002-01-1010-
Journal article
2002
Mean Field Modelling of NOx Storage on Pt/BaO/Al2O3
Louise Olsson, Erik Fridell, Magnus Skoglundh et al
Catalysis Today. Vol. 73 (3-4), p. 263-270
Journal article
2002
Enhanced low-temperature catalytic activity due to transient gas composition changes
Per-Anders Carlsson, Peter Thormählen, Magnus Skoglundh et al
Proceedings of the EUCHEM Conference on Environmental CatalysisCatalysis, Hindås, Sweden, November 27-December 1
Paper in proceedings
2001
Mean field modelling of NOx storage on Pt/BaO/Al2O3
Louise Olsson, Erik Fridell, Magnus Skoglundh et al
5th European Congress on Catalysis, Limerick, Ireland, September 2-7, 2001
Paper in proceedings
2001
A Kinetic Study of NO Oxidation and NOx Storage on Pt/Al2O3 and Pt/BaO/Al2O3
Louise Olsson, Hans Persson, Erik Fridell et al
Journal of Physical Chemistry B Materials. Vol. 105 (29), p. 6895-6906
Journal article
2001
Periodic control for improved low-temperature catalytic activity
Per-Anders Carlsson, Peter Thormählen, Magnus Skoglundh et al
Topics in Catalysis. Vol. 16-17 (1-4), p. 343-347
Journal article
2001
Induced low-temperature catalytic ignition by transient changes in the gas composition
Per-Anders Carlsson, Peter Thormählen, Magnus Skoglundh et al
Proceedings of the 5th European Congress on Catalysis, Limerick, Ireland, September 2-7
Paper in proceedings
2000
Methane and nitric oxide conversion over a catalyst dedicated for natural gas vehicles
Bengt Andersson, Neil Cruise, Martin Lundén et al
Society of Automotive Engineers Technical Paper Series. Vol. SP-1564, p. 33-40
Journal article
2000
E!ects of the radial distribution of platinum in spherical alumina catalysts on the oxidation of CO in air
Astrid Drewsen, Anna Ljungqvist, Magnus Skoglundh et al
Chemical Engineering Sciences. Vol. 55, p. 4939-4951
Journal article
1999
Periodic gas composition control for low temperature catalytic ignition
Peter Thormählen, Per-Anders Carlsson, Magnus Skoglundh et al
Proceedings of the 4th European Congress on Catalysis (EUROPACAT-IV) in Rimini, Italy, September 5-10
Paper in proceedings
1999
Model studies of NOx storage and reduction of nitrogen oxides
Erik Fridell, Magnus Skoglundh, Hans Persson et al
4th European Congress on Catalysis (EUROPACAT-IV) in Rimini, Italy, September 5-10, 1999.
Paper in proceedings
1999
A kinetic study of NO oxidation over Pt/γ-Al2O3 catalysts
Louise Johansson, Björn Westerberg, Hans Persson et al
4th European Congress on Catalysis (EUROPACAT-IV) in Rimini, Italy, September 5-10, 1999.
Paper in proceedings
1999
A kinetic study of oxygen adsorption/desorption and NO oxidation over Pt/Al2O3 catalysts
Louise Olsson, Björn Westerberg, Hans Persson et al
Journal of Physical Chemistry B Materials. Vol. 103 (47), p. 10433-10439
Journal article
1999
Low temperature CO oxidation over platinum and cobalt oxide catalysts
Peter Thormählen, Magnus Skoglundh, Erik Fridell et al
Journal of Catalysis. Vol. 188 (2), p. 300-310
Journal article
1999
In-situ FTIR characterization of NOx storage catalysts
Björn Westerberg, Su Lan Xu, Louise Johansson et al
4th European Congress on Catalysis (EUROPACAT-IV) in Rimini, Italy, September 5-10, 1999.
Paper in proceedings
1998
Catalytic oxidation of CO in cold start emissions
Peter Thormählen, Magnus Skoglundh, Erik Fridell et al
2nd World Congress on Environmental Catalysis as part of Topical Conference on Environmental Catalysis and Reaction Engineering in Miami Beach, Florida, USA, November 15-20, 1998.
Paper in proceedings
1996
The effect of reaction conditions and time on stream on the coke formed during propane dehydrogenation
Mikael Larsson, Magnus Hultén, Edd A Blekkan et al
Journal of Catalysis,. Vol. 164 (1), p. 44-53
Journal article
1988
The Adsorption and Reaction of H2 and D2 on a Ni/SiO2 Catalyst
Claes Niklasson, Bengt Andersson
Ind. Chem Eng Res. Vol. 27, p. 1370-1378
Journal article
1987
Influence of Hydrogen Pressure on Selectivity in Consecutive Hydrogentaion Reactions
Claes Niklasson, Bengt Andersson, Schöön Nils-Herman
Ind. Eng. Chem. Res. Vol. 26, p. 1461-
Journal article
1977
Linear Dichroism of Chloroplasts and Subchloroplast Fractions Oriented by Flow
F. Tjerneld, Bengt Nordén, H. E. Akerlund et al
Spectroscopy Letters. Vol. 10 (6), p. 489-493
Journal article
Showing 7 research projects
2014–2016
Modelling of mass transfer and chemical reactions in turbulent flows
Bengt Andersson
Chemical Reaction Engineering
Swedish Research Council (VR)
2013–2013
Multiphase flow lab
Bengt Andersson
Chemical Reaction Engineering
Swedish Research Council (VR)
2010–2013
Competence Centre for Catalysis
Per-Anders Carlsson
Applied Surface Chemistry
Magnus Skoglundh
Applied Surface Chemistry
Louise Olsson
Chemical Reaction Engineering
Bengt Herbert Kasemo
Chemical Physics
Bengt Andersson
Chemical Reaction Engineering
Anders Hellman
Chemical Physics
Krister Holmberg
Applied Surface Chemistry
Hanna Härelind
Applied Surface Chemistry
Eva Olsson
Eva Olsson Group
Henrik Grönbeck
Chemical Physics
Derek Creaser
Chemical Reaction Engineering
Scania CV AB
Volvo Cars
ECAPS AB
Saab Automobile Powertrain AB
Swedish Energy Agency
Volvo Group
Haldor Topsoe
Chalmers
2010–2013
Energy efficient reduction of exhaust emissions from vehicles: E4 Mistra
Hanna Härelind
Applied Surface Chemistry
Ronnie Andersson
Chemical Technology
Bengt Andersson
Chemical Reaction Engineering
Anders Palmqvist
Applied Surface Chemistry
The Swedish Foundation for Strategic Environmental Research (Mistra)
2007–2008
Emissions of particulates from DI engine, gasoline and alternative fuels
Magnus Skoglundh
Chemistry and Chemical Engineering
Per-Anders Carlsson
Chemistry and Chemical Engineering
Bengt Andersson
Chemistry and Chemical Engineering
VINNOVA
Swedish Energy Agency
Swedish Road Administration
2006–2009
Competence Centre for Catalysis
Bengt Herbert Kasemo
Chemical Physics
Anders Hellman
Physics
Derek Creaser
Chemistry and Chemical Engineering
Per-Anders Carlsson
Chemistry and Chemical Engineering
Henrik Grönbeck
Physics
Hanna Härelind
Chemistry and Chemical Engineering
Bengt Andersson
Chemistry and Chemical Engineering
Louise Olsson
Chemistry and Chemical Engineering
Magnus Skoglundh
Chemistry and Chemical Engineering
Krister Holmberg
Chemistry and Chemical Engineering
General Motors Powertrain Sweden AB
Scania CV AB
Perstorp AB
Volvo Cars
ECAPS AB
Swedish Energy Agency
Volvo Group
Haldor Topsoe
Chalmers
2006–2008
Measurement, modelling and optimisation of transient and stationary emissions of particulates from diesel engines
Per-Anders Carlsson
Chemistry and Chemical Engineering
Magnus Skoglundh
Chemistry and Chemical Engineering
Bengt Andersson
Chemistry and Chemical Engineering
VINNOVA
Swedish Energy Agency
Swedish Road Administration
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